‘I want a relationship but…I HAVE to Maintain Friendships With My Exes.’

July 19, 2012

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friendswithexes 300x206 I want a relationship but…I HAVE to Maintain Friendships With My Exes.I’m starting a series here on the eHarmony blog called, “I want to have a relationship, but…”. We’ll be looking at the ways people hurt their chances for finding a new love by insisting on behavior which is either unhealthy or counter-productive to a serious relationship.

I know a woman, Madison, who has indicated in her online dating profile that she “must be able to maintain her opposite sex friendships,” and let’s just say she’s having a little trouble meeting a great new guy. I wondered if there was a connection between this profile statement and her difficulty, so I asked her about it. “Most of my opposite sex friends are exes,” she told me. “AHA!” I said. “You tell your potential new loves that you have ongoing relationships with your ex-loves and that you insist on seeing them?” she nodded, and in an instant I knew why this beautiful woman was batting .000 in the online big leagues.

When I explained to her that many, many people don’t want their partner to maintain a relationship with ex lovers she was indignant, “Why do I want to end a great long-term friendship because I’ve started dating a new person who doesn’t like it?” I explained, “Can you see that a man doesn’t want you to go have dinner with someone whom you’ve seen naked?” “But NOW WE’RE JUST FRIENDS!” she yelled. “HOW MANY MEN ARE WE TALKING ABOUT?!” I yelled back. “IT’S ONLY SIX. WHATS THE BIG DEAL?” My jaw hit the floor. She wants to maintain close friendships with SIX ex-lovers? What person is going to be okay with that?

I’m not totally blind to Madison’s point. I have old girlfriends who are now friends of mine. We might have a chat online occasionally, or exchange a Facebook post. They aren’t my best friends, but I value them and the small place they have in my life. Madison is a great person who decides early on in a relationship that she isn’t that interested in a guy and typically ends it amicably. Because she is a good “breaker-upper” the men don’t hate her and they quickly move to the friendship stage. It makes perfect sense.

The issue isn’t the old relationships and whether those friendships are wrong. The issue is “What can a new love reasonably ask you to do for the sake of the relationship?” Can she/he tell you who your friends should be?

Years ago my modern, liberal, cool guy response to this question would be “of course not.” Aren’t we all adults? Can’t two people of the opposite sex be friends without any residual spark? How dare a person tell me who I can see? But the years have taught me a few things:

1. Extinguished fires have embers.

If you’ve been intimate with a person, even if it was years ago, there is some kind of connection between you. You may know that this connection is dormant and unlikely to ever come to life, but you must acknowledge that it has come to life many times for many other people. It’s so common that it isn’t unreasonable that your new partner has some concerns about it. After all, he/she is putting his/her heart into this new relationship. They may love and trust you, but chemistry and sex are mysterious and powerful forces. People who never thought they’d cheat end up deep into something they cannot control.

2. Emotional affairs are more likely to happen with people whom we’ve had a deep connection.

I think there are many people who have their physical selves in check. They would never “cheat”, but when you meet your ex for dinner do you talk about your new relationship? Do you talk about the pet peeves you have for this new love? Is an emotional affair cheating? I say it is. Giving yourself a confidante of the opposite sex to hear your relationship woes is courting trouble.

3. You have a commitment to put your emotional energy into your partner.

There are certain responsibilities that come with relationships, even new ones. One responsibility is to channel your emotional energy into your new love. If you’re giving away parts of that energy to others, you’re not putting your all into the new relationship, and again, this new partner has reason to be worried if there’s a good chance you’re going to be sharing this emotional energy with six other people. In my opinion, one of the causes of our high modern relationship casualty rate is a cavalier attitude toward this aspect of love.

Of course Madison just sees a man trying to tell her what to do. What he’s really saying is, “If you want to do this, I can’t be with you.” In fact, dozens of men are saying this to her and she can’t understand what’s wrong with them. “Don’t they trust me?” She asked. I suggested what I thought was the easiest solution to the whole dilemma. “Take your new guy to these lunches and dinners with your old boyfriends. Introduce him. Bring everyone together and show him that there’s nothing to fear.” I could see she wasn’t buying it.

In the end, I suggested a simple test, take this pronouncement out of her dating profile, and mention to men only after they’ve had a couple of dates. Let him see her charms before she reveals her demands. At least that way he might think she’s worth the frayed nerves.

What do you think about Madison’s position?

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  1. Jeff

    “She wants to maintain close friendships with SIX ex-lovers? What person is going to be okay with that?”

    I would be. If I didn’t trust her not to cheat, I’d object to one. But if I do trust her, who cares how many?

  2. mindy grace

    I met a man on eHarmony and we dated for a year and 4 months. Thought it would be a success story. We were great together, travelled around, took part in each other’s family gatherings, holiday get-togethers etc., however, early on I found out he was very much in touch with his ex. This made it difficult for me to trust him especially because when I was not available they would go to dinners etc. and constantly texted each other…’work stuff’. He justified it and even said he would not let her go and lose both of us if he and I were to break-up. It sounded to me that he wouldn’t put efforts for us to work yet he would do anything to protect that ‘friendship’ even if it meant breaking up with me. He said I was ‘the one’, introduced me to family etc., but never to this ex and suggested it was irrelevant because he was not connected with her as much as when we first met. I later found text exchanges and the tension became too much that the relationship had to end. I think the reason for connecting to a line of exes etc. is lack of confidence in oneself with a new relationship, lack of commitment, boundaries and being codependent. Depending on the reason for a break-up I think it can be comforting to remain friends-no hard feelings. It can also be lack of morals and poor character. Lack of confidence can lead someone to want attention from everywhere to feel good. It is also comfortable to have someone when lonely and if things don’t work out with the new person but unfortunately people don’t realize this could be the one thing that jeopardizes relationships. I had been in this situation before and the guy said they had an understanding with an ex to be intimate but if they find dates they would have to end things but supposedly the ex was finding it hard to let him go. He begged, cried and swore on his mother’s life he would cut ties but later I found out he was still in touch and our relationship had to end. The relationship was also unpleasant because of broken trust. I don’t think it is necessary to maintain friendships with exes unless there are children involved, otherwise resolve your feeling and move on or try to make things work if you are that close. If a new partner is okay with that then good but if not, part of loving someone is trying to understand them and avoid things that would hurt them or make them uncomfortable and when trust is taken out of the equation it can be a rough ride bound to end quickly and sometimes painfully

  3. Kim

    So I am with Madison on this one. I am friends with some of my exes, close friends in some cases and no matter how I met them or what our relationship was at the beginning they are just friends now, and for most, it has been YEARS since we were together and nothing has happened in the interim nor has anything ever happened with any of my exes that I became friends with. I am also close friends with the mother of one of my exes is that OK? one of my exes has even become a women since we dated years ago, can I be friends with her? the way I see it is these are my friends, plan and simple, I wouldn’t want to be with a man who expects me to give up my friendships no matter how I met them. Oddly enough most guys I have dated have had more problems with my best friend who is a strait guy but who I have never dated in the 16 years of our friendship. Most guys seem more worried because I haven’t tried being with him to find out it wouldn’t work, but dose that mean I am only allowed to be friends with women or gay men? at some point the person you are with has to trust that you are with them and that your friends are just your friends. I am still friend with people I met in school, does that mean I am living in the past because my relationship with them started in a different time? No, it means that our relationships have evolved over time and we have grown together. and I can see someone thinking I have low self esteem if I was maintaining friendships with people that were cruel or abusive to me but not if I have relationships with people that were always kind to me. why do I have to have bad self esteem to continue to be friends with people that I got along well with, just because we decided that we didn’t want to continue a romantic relationship doesn’t mean we didn’t get along or we are still secretly pinning for each other after 10 years. I am more worried about the self-esteam level of the people who are so worried there partner is going to cheat that they don’t want them to have friendships with member of the opposite sex.

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